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hackedX99
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 Posted - 11/02/2009 : 11:25:08 PM
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What hardware/software do you need so that you can dial extensions to access different phones in your house?
How do the business companys do it ????
Is this some type of phone router that all the phone lines inside the company plug into. And it routes by extension to the right inside phone or something.
If this is the case then cann't this give the illusion of having a seperate line for fax? (by having a different extension for the fax) |
Edited by - hackedX99 on 11/02/2009 11:26:47 PM
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dualdflipflop
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Posted - 11/03/2009 : 12:15:06 AM
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Term to investigate: "Private Branch eXchange" - "PBX"
Have fun. |
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WaMu
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Posted - 11/03/2009 : 12:50:52 AM
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Another term - asterisk
It's a computer program that simulates a PBX; so, you can have your own PBX without having to configure all the hardware (thanks to VOIP!).
I've been thinking about writing a step-by-step tutorial regarding setting up a home asterisk solution. Maybe when I get a chance, I'll put it together. |
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hackedX99
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Posted - 11/03/2009 : 2:37:37 PM
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Yes , I know PBX from wikipedia I think we even talked about the equivalent IPX for internet exchange.
But what I want to know is what hardware do the companies use to have extensions to their inside phones. It must be some telephone router/switch that you can buy. Or some hardware that plugs into a dedicated computer server to do this? I am curious how much companies pay for this. And if it is not to much money I might buy the stuff for it. Also curious how they rig whatever they have to rig up.
As for the asterisk
http://www.asteriskwin32.com/
I am wondering if any asterisk server can be just a computer server with the asterisk software loaded on it. Maybe you could only use it this way if you wanted to just use the VOIP telephone stuff.
But what about if you wanted to have your landlines have this functionality as well. Would you need any other hardware other then a V.92 modem? I would think so.
As for the asterisk software does this come with the ability to set it up as an answering machine based on the caller id. (i.e different greeting messages based on callers number)
I thought I read something that seemed like it would in the features page. WaMu maybe you know. |
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dualdflipflop
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Posted - 11/03/2009 : 4:47:08 PM
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Originally posted by hackedX99
Yes , I know PBX from wikipedia I think we even talked about the equivalent IPX for internet exchange.
Wait... IPX (Internetwork Packet Exchange)? You mean IXP (Internet eXchange Point).
Regardless... In what universe?
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Originally posted by hackedX99
But what I want to know is what hardware do the companies use to have extensions to their inside phones. It must be some telephone router/switch that you can buy. Or some hardware that plugs into a dedicated computer server to do this? I am curious how much companies pay for this. And if it is not to much money I might buy the stuff for it. Also curious how they rig whatever they have to rig up.
You said you read Wikipeida, I ask how? There's a whole section dedicated to requirements of hardware. Is the list too advanced? If that's the case, point that out, one of us will break it down for you.
As far as how much money, my office Nortel system with 14 line support menu and answering service, 30 some odd phones, with wiring, we estimated the original install would have cost between fifty to a hundred grand. The equivalent Asterisk system (which wasn't available at the time of install) would have been much less.
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Originally posted by hackedX99
As for the asterisk
http://www.asteriskwin32.com/
I am wondering if any asterisk server can be just a computer server with the asterisk software loaded on it. Maybe you could only use it this way if you wanted to just use the VOIP telephone stuff.
But what about if you wanted to have your landlines have this functionality as well. Would you need any other hardware other then a V.92 modem? I would think so.
Asterisk requires totally different hardware than simply attaching any old V.92 modem to a regular phone and poof, magical PBX for free. Although they did at one point, possibly still do have a single FXO port PCI card still out on the market which was a glorified V.92 modem. However, aside from it's own follies, attempts at cloning it with your own Broadcom modem will prove to be fruitless. Save yourself the time and buy a real FXO port.
Look up Asterisk compatible FXO hardware for a list.
Before you ask what FXO and FXS is or any other question, try and read all of this. I know it's a competitor to Asterisk for the Windows platform's website, but they answer a lot of your basic questions. Try and read all the rest of the questions and follow their links at the bottom of the page.
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Originally posted by hackedX99
As for the asterisk software does this come with the ability to set it up as an answering machine based on the caller id. (i.e different greeting messages based on callers number)
I thought I read something that seemed like it would in the features page. WaMu maybe you know.
The simple answer is yes. |
P.S. This is what part of the alphabet would look like with Q and R eliminated. |
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WaMu
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Posted - 11/03/2009 : 5:20:50 PM
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As for the asterisk software does this come with the ability to set it up as an answering machine based on the caller id. (i.e different greeting messages based on callers number)
I thought I read something that seemed like it would in the features page. WaMu maybe you know.
Asterisk has more "features" than are listed on any features page. The limit is your imagination. It's like asking for the "features" of a programming language; there's really no limit. Which is what's great about Asterisk.
Any ol' computer will work for an asterisk server. However, you will need additional hardware. You'll need VOIP compatible phones, and if you want to use your phone on the public phone network, you'll need an adapter that supports both FXS and FXO. |
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hackedX99
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Posted - 11/04/2009 : 12:53:39 AM
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Ok , read your link
If I wanted to set up VOIP with my analog phones
I would need to buy a FXO gateway or adapter.
In those diagrams can the IP PBX box be a regular computer box running a program like asterisk on it? Or do you need to buy special hardware for this PBX box?
as for a regular PBX box (in the second picture) how much would one cost?
I am assuming each port on these box's are labeled with the extension number for that phone plugged into it. Yes/no?
If no then what designates one phone from the others?
And in larger companies what do they do? Because I am assuming these PBX boxs have limits in the number of ports available for phones.
I am assuming all the wireing/lines are either RJ11 or RJ45 lines. (i.e cat3 or cat5 5e or 6 ) when connecting to the PBX box or FXO gateway/adapter.
Thanks with these questions answered I think I got it.
Hope the cost of a little PBX box can be found cheap???
And where is their a local store that would sell these or must you order online?
Same question but for the FXO gateway/adapter...
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Edited by - hackedX99 on 11/04/2009 12:59:12 AM |
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dualdflipflop
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Posted - 11/04/2009 : 01:49:13 AM
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Originally posted by hackedX99
[b]I would need to buy a FXO gateway or adapter.
In those diagrams can the IP PBX box be a regular computer box running a program like asterisk on it? Or do you need to buy special hardware for this PBX box?
Special hardware running on a standard PC would suffice.
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Originally posted by hackedX99
[b]as for a regular PBX box (in the second picture) how much would one cost?
I am assuming each port on these box's are labeled with the extension number for that phone plugged into it. Yes/no?
Did you read my entire post?
Again, cost always depends on how advanced you want to get. A small Asterisk set up can cost around a thousand dollars, to several hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Remember, you don't just plug in any ol' phone either... you have to select appropriate phones. My office has a Nortel system. I can't just toss Meridian phones on the system. Nor can I toss a bunch of Cisco VoIP phones on it. Asterisk has a wider range of phones you can toss on the system. However, there are requirements you must conform to.
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[b]And in larger companies what do they do? Because I am assuming these PBX boxs have limits in the number of ports available for phones.
Not really... Especially with VoIP. The whole reason why companies lease T-carrier and now SONET lines.
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Originally posted by hackedX99
[b]I am assuming all the lines are either RJ11 or RJ45 lines. (i.e cat3 or cat5 5e or 6 ) when connecting to the PBX box or FXO gateway/adapter.
Depends on the system. Most systems I see are RJ-21 to punch block.
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Originally posted by hackedX99
[b]Hope the cost of a little PBX box can be found cheap???
And where is their a local store that would sell these or must you order online?
Not many stores carry stuff like this, you mostly have to go online. If you're lucky you may find something on craigslist. Some company might be upgrading or something, and you might find some cheap gear. Good luck, I know people who make a living installing PBX systems, I've watched them work... it's no joke business. Especially older systems, but even Asterisk, depending on the complexity, can be a task. |
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