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sokratic
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 Posted - 12/16/2005 : 6:09:55 PM
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Anybody know of any good logic bombs out there capable of a format/FAT re-write/registry scrambler just for ejumacation purposes?  I'd rather not create the wheel if it's already out there which I'm sure it is. Google is not my friend on this topic.
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dualdflipflop
Moderator
USA
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Posted - 12/16/2005 : 6:12:31 PM
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| Would you mind clarifying what you're definition of a logic bomb is, I seem to have a different interpretation as to what that actually means. The definition I see it as would seriously make me want to lock your post. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, even though the distructive potential you are asking for makes me want to lock this post all together. Be sure to read the rules just incase, to make sure what your question relates to abides by them. |
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minihacker316
Senior Member
France
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Posted - 12/16/2005 : 6:14:33 PM
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| I think maybe its a piece of software that destroys logical dos partitions. |
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Z_A_R_D_O_Z
Senior Member
[Im a code.]
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Posted - 12/16/2005 : 6:14:52 PM
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| Sokratic: Do you even know what you're talking about? |
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sokratic
Newbie
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Posted - 12/16/2005 : 6:17:56 PM
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| hmm, I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong. I assumed a logic bomb was a program that basically was "uncontagious" and could carry out specific commands/actions as requested. Preferably in the background. Usually time released/executed. Coding that could be embedded in a larger program such as Photoshop CS2 for instance... |
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sokratic
Newbie
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Posted - 12/16/2005 : 6:20:03 PM
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| Do I know what I'm talking about? Hmm, no...lol. Which is why I'm here reading and asking. |
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dualdflipflop
Moderator
USA
7392 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2005 : 6:21:05 PM
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Kind of...
Slag code otherwise known as logic bombs, are code inserted surreptitiously or intentionally, that is designed to execute under circumstances like after a certain amount of time or the failure of a a program user to respond to a program command. It is in effect a delayed-action computer virus or Trojan horse. |
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Z_A_R_D_O_Z
Senior Member
[Im a code.]
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Posted - 12/16/2005 : 6:21:26 PM
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Hmmm, well. Nothing wrong with that. But, the problem is that maybe noone here can give you such a good answear.  Have you tried google it? =/ |
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minihacker316
Senior Member
France
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Posted - 12/16/2005 : 6:21:43 PM
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| So then its a virus/trojan that could be remote controlled and could delete/format hard drives? |
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Icarian Decoding
Omega Member
Antigua and Barbuda
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Posted - 12/16/2005 : 6:21:50 PM
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| Logic Bombs are usually best written by youtself. Now, if you want a presdesigned logic bomb, which is usually for changing objects immediately, I would suggest looking up automation process's like AutoIt, and tell it to do commands, and get it to execute whatever it needs to. |
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dualdflipflop
Moderator
USA
7392 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2005 : 6:23:34 PM
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| Most logic bombs can be detected and eliminated before they execute through a periodic scan of all computer files, including compressed files, with an up-to-date anti-virus program. So, more than likely, even if you write a scratch logic bomb, the anti-virus software will circumvent the malicious code. Sorry to dissapoint. |
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Icarian Decoding
Omega Member
Antigua and Barbuda
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Posted - 12/16/2005 : 6:25:42 PM
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| DualD - That's assuming it's written in something that will look like a logic bomb. If the PC just thinks you are running some sort of automation program, like AutoIt, then chances are, it's not going to catch it, because AutoIt, itself, is not a language, or an advanced if it is. |
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sakuramboo
Moderator
USA
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Posted - 12/16/2005 : 6:26:18 PM
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Originally posted by minihacker316
So then its a virus/trojan that could be remote controlled and could delete/format hard drives?
you dont "control" a logic bomb. you just make it run when something happens. the most basic example i can think of would be, the "error reporting to microsoft" when a program crashes. that would be a logic bomb because when a program crashes, windows runs that little utility to let you report it to microsoft. |
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sokratic
Newbie
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Posted - 12/16/2005 : 6:27:43 PM
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Hmmm, well. Nothing wrong with that. But, the problem is that maybe noone here can give you such a good answear. Have you tried google it? =/
Yeah, I did. Google is a neverending search for me. It's like an addiction. I won't stop googling until I find something, but as of yet...it's mainly just security bulletins, etc. I suppose I just gotta dust off my compiler and get to it.  gah, I hate coding...lol. |
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sokratic
Newbie
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Posted - 12/16/2005 : 6:34:58 PM
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you dont "control" a logic bomb. you just make it run when something happens. the most basic example i can think of would be, the "error reporting to microsoft" when a program crashes. that would be a logic bomb because when a program crashes, windows runs that little utility to let you report it to microsoft.
Now couldn't a logic bomb sorta be an executable? maybe? Maybe packed up in a mainstream install shield? Let the install shield install and execute? I'm not sure. Something I'm just going to have to experiment with.
And how could an anti-virus program find a brand new logic bomb that doesn't have a repeating pattern? Assuming I write one from scratch And yes, I'm sure I need to read more about how anti-virus programs work |
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dualdflipflop
Moderator
USA
7392 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2005 : 6:40:19 PM
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@Icarian Decoding - Okay, if you say so...
@sokratic - If you hate coding, good luck doing anything. But in all honesty, I still don't think you fully understand what Logic Bomb means. It is usually an accident in the first place, it just does something unexpected based on some type of circumstance. If it's malicious, it's more than likely going to be caught while being exicuted. If you want to intentionally build a virus that destroys code, take that talk someplace else. We don't like it here. |
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